Two questions we might ask ...

## Are patterns *real*?

There are several suggestions for the *reality* of pattern like things

### in the eye of the beholder

Patterns are wherever we as conscious, sentient beings interpret them to be

**problem :** what about *us*? We might like to try to use patterns in an explanation of we conscious, sentient beings. But then the problem either becomes circular :

# Q : What are patterns? A : what we interpret them to be

# Q : which things count as valid interpretters? A : things which have a particular, person-like, pattern

So we end up wondering how the whole thing gets of the ground. And if we don't have an answer, isn't it just a kind of *relativism*?

### Patterns as information saving summaries

Wherever we can use reference to the pattern as an information saving summary in describing the world, there is a real pattern.

**problem :** What's information? Is it defined in terms of us and our expectations ? (Could lead via another us-dependent cirularity to relativism)

: There is a mathematical theory of information. Look for "A Mathematical Theory of Information" by Shanon. –ZbigniewLukasiak

:: Yes, but that defines it in terms of *surprise* to the receiver (ie. us) – PhilJones

** problem : ** How do we measure it? Is it something like *KolmogorovComplexity*, and does that depend on an arbitrary number base? If so, aren't we again falling back into some kind of relativism? (ie. patterns are relative to the arbitrary number base chosen)

## The second question, the *epistemological* one

What kind of activity is the search for, and documentation of patterns? Is it just some kind of annecdotal story telling. "hey, we tend to like cities with this kind of scale-free structure?" Is it a kind of science? Is it maths? "I'm studying general *ReactionDiffusion* patterns in general using iterative methods on my computer."

See also :

*TheScientificStatusOfArtificialLife*,

- Comment on
*ProcessPatterns*from TeleDyn : (should http://www.teledyn.com/mt/archives/002146.html (should be connected with / moved to OnRhetoric and OnInterventions)

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